How come you dont see any big-block s-10s?

[schitthedd]

just curious, i guess there are probably a lot of drag racers, but i was wondering about every day drivers

[Mike]

Well Schithead, I haven\'t seen any in person, but I guess it would be a tight fit, and have you ever priced out a bigblock and bigblock parts, it\'s usually more costly then smallblock. And finding parts for them is more challenging, heck I bought a waterpump for my small block at the local 7-11 for 12 bucks, just kidding.......

[badass10]

well i have seen one...i know the installation was really tricky and it was a real tight fit. Its really not worth it. With some good engineering, some cash and gears you can make a sbc run just as good as a bb.

[4more]

oh they are a beautiful thing. a friend had one 2 years ago. tight fit it was bone stock and ran low 14s and was quiet.the people at local cruisins loved it . it got some pistons slap so he traded it for a small block truck he previosly owned.the guy pulled the big block put it in a car and sold the truck then some bonehead put a small block in it sad really sad

[s350tt]

i have never seen one in person but i have seen many smc in s bodies my buddy has a 94 sonoma and he measured out the engine bay and compared it to a 454 he wanted to put in it and it was very tight and he figured that the firewall would have to have been moved back a few inches i was wondering why you dont see any mounted in the bed that seems like it would work better than trying to put it in the front just a idea

[Sack]

I have seen a few. Full drag trucks though. Had to move the firewall back.

[sideshow]

We\'ll goig to my two cents in. I have a 87 s-10 with a big block in it. I did not have to cut the firewall or the inner fender wells. There is more room under the hood of my big block truck than there is under the hood of my small block blazer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[4more]

thank you mr sideshow i wanna know why these people think they need to cut the crap out of a truck anyway (how about some pics. show em how it should be done)

[BaDaSsS10]

HEy my buddy has a 396 big block in his S 10 I dotn know what u guys are talkin about he said it was eazier to get in then a small block and it is totaly worth it http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[4more]

and another wise one welcome mr badasss10

[my454s10]

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On 2002-07-11 23:38, 4more wrote:

and another wise one welcome mr badasss10

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[martin777]

I\'m in the middle of a fat block conversion. I\'m gonna build the headers myself and that\'s the biggest hurdle. Aluminum heads,intake,water pump,mini-starter and headers make it weigh about the same as a stock iron SBC. It\'s 2\" larger in every dimension than a SB-HWL. Big block parts are a lot higher/harder to find than a SB but I gotsta have that stump pullin\' torque. http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Here\'s a cool Video (http://members.cox.net/martin777/WebPage/9.99.wmv) of a local guy here running a 383 SBC and a 250 shot! I\'m gonna try to catch this feller on motor! http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif



Nice 454/555 (http://www.jmwilson-xtreme-s10.cityslide.com/albums/album_thumbnails.cfm/239487/11303)



\"There\'s no replacement for displacement!\"

[mommasboy]

I know a guy here that runs an early model S-10 that has a 396 bored .060 with a tunnel ram, 2\'\' dia. longtubes and a narrowed and tubbed rearend, he has 15x15 tires in the back. But guess what, it only runs mid-high 13\'s. the bigblocks make so much torque that all that thing can do is spin. even with the big tires. I would say that he probably spins for about the first 80\' or so.

[martin777]

What rear suspension is he running? Ladder bars or a 4-link and good shocks/coil-overs for sure would cure that problem. Or he just needs to set-up what he has. This guy (http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/U4OOSM8CQGBY.html) (his trucks does a 7.46 1/4)sent me this e-mail--->



\"I have run two different size tires on the 88 the more power the motor would make I was able to run a smaller tire 30.5 X 12 X 15 and if the motor was down on power I would run 31 X 14 X 15. I know this sounds backwards but what happens is the more power you make it will transfer the weight of the car to the rear faster and harder.\"



Think about it-there are a lot of 8 sec. cars(mostly big blocks) with killer 60\' times out at Thunder Valley (local track) that run those dinky 10.5\" tires. It\'s all about suspension. http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif





\"There\'s no replacement for displacement!

[mommasboy]

he has a 4-link, over all it\'s an alright suspension, Should hold the power he\'s make\'n just fine

[franksandbeans]

there is an s blazer on ebay with a 396 in it. looks like a pretty clean install if anybody wants to get ideas.

Here is the link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849860539&r=0&t=0)

[Unregistered]

test test test

[s10dragtruck]

Does anyone have any pics or links of 4 links in a s10 was thinking about doing this with the 4 link and coil over kit from summit. i want to se how they fabricated it

[skooter]

If you go to the gallery and look at finished trucks, there is a typhoon with a 454 in it, the AWD is stil in working order, there is 2 or 3 pics of it

[Knanthrup]

eek

[basementdweller]

I agree, with.. I dont remember who posted it but yes you can make just as much HP with a smallblock if built properly. Any big block truck should run at LEAST 10s thats it! I piss on 13s and 14s and my motor isnt even putting out over 450horse. My buddy\'s buick regal put out 678 horse on a 434 small block. Can runs 10.30s(motor) and 8\'s on spray. 1200HP on the spray http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif and he hooks up with NO PROBLEM on a 10\" tire. Call yer buddy with the big block S-10 and tell him that WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION is a beautiful thing. Im not bashing anyone but somethings seriously wrong with his suspension. Tubbed with a 4link... id be pissed if my truck didnt hook up with that setup. http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif anyway.. have a great day guys!

[basementdweller]

I agree with whoever posted that... you can make just as much power with a SB as a BB if built properly. My buddy\'s regal has a 434 SB that makes 678(motor and runs 10.30s) and 1200HP on spray and runs 8s http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif. He hooks up with no problem on a 10\" tire. I mean, even i piss on 13s and 14s with a mild sb and i cant launch it any higher than 2grand. With a tubbed rear and a 4link suspension there is something seriously wrong with the suspension on his truck.. Im not bashing, but maybe he should try more weight distribution? Have a good day guys!

[doghouse]

I am running a 580 BBC with Stahl headers currently at Oxford Plains Drag Strip.



I run Both street class and nostalgia races.



I have about 35 passes on it with the new Motor.



It makes over 800 hp on the dyno on pump gas.



I have it dialed back a little right now but am running 1.49-1.50 60\'s and 6.45 at 108 in the 1/8. It will run well into the 9\'s in the quarter.



I did replace the firewall with a piece of aluminum plate and relocated the brake master cylinders inside the vehicle. But i now have more room to work on it than my Small block setup from last season.



I run a 9\" rear and 13.5 et streets on the back and use a coan turbo 400 with a brake.



It\'s lot\'s of fun and I get many positive comments as it\'s one of the faster street vehicles at the track.



A bbc is possible but not for the street.



I woudn\'t waste any money putting a v8 in these vehicles for the street. The suspension and design is 50\'s vintage and there are so many other cars out there that will work much better for street use and already have a v8 in them.



But they make a good strip vehicle when you can tow it on a trailer to the track.

[tracker]

here we go

[wagonboy]

I\'m a new member, just picked up a BBC project truck this week. Its an 88 thats been off the road since 90 and its 100% rust free. They moved the frame in for 15\" wide rims and tires and have a 9\" ford rear end the truck needs to be put together anybody with any tips? It will be a street and strip driver not a daily driver. I dont see why it couldnt be a street truck with ample cooling etc. Its a 427 and other than headers what other issues should I address? the engine mounts etc are all set up and room is not an issue except for headers.

[Scotty_S-15]

On 2004-07-02 12:47, wagonboy wrote:

I\'m a new member, just picked up a BBC project truck this week. ................ Its a 427 and other than headers what other issues should I address? the engine mounts etc are all set up and room is not an issue except for headers.



Quite a project! Sounds like somebody did all the nasty work already, now you can reap the benefits! It\'ll be a sweet ride when you\'re done.

........... The only thing I can offer, is \"If it were me\" advice, stuff you probably already know, but here goes.

........ My main concern would be the \"moved in frame\" deal. check it out and make sure it is done properly, strong welds, welded to the right things, in the right places, etc. I\'m presuming it\'s stock frame rails relocated, as opposed to a \"back half\" kit? Either way, I\'d also want to check for proper alignment. Main thing is that the rear is square, and pointed the right way. A good \"dumb\" way to do this is to bolt on a pair of rims that you know are true, and snap strings on jackstands on both sides simultanelously. When just touching the rims fore and aft, they should be the same distance from the front hub on each side. Then measure distance from front hub to rear, etc. etc. A couple of plumb bobs and marks on the floor in strategic places, along with triangulated measurements can be a help too. Anyway, you get the idea.

......... Then my second thought would be engine/trans to rear relationship (driveshaft angle)

.......... So then, after lunch,.... http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif But seriously, I\'d want to establish that everything is pretty close, and I could proceed in confidence with the rest of the project. Good Luck!

[jimmya]

big blocks are possible street or race, but for street the nose is to heavy , and you wouldn\'t want to move firewall back on a driver to improve the distribution. I have nothing against big blocks, in a few weeks I will post pics of my 1995 ext cab with a 500 ci twin dominator pro-stock motor. (yes I built the truck and motor myself, and yes my times are correct on my small block race truck.)

[PhatDoggie]

I am currently installing a bbc In my 2000 s-10 extreme. I am worried about the rear tube of the header interfering with the sterring column. Other than that it fit perfectly. The only thing I need to trim is the transmission hump to fit the 2 speed powerglide. Check out my first build up pics on myspace. www.myspace.com/phatdoggieracing

[Knanthrup]

On 2007-03-21 22:39, PhatDoggie wrote:

I am currently installing a bbc In my 2000 s-10 extreme. I am worried about the rear tube of the header interfering with the sterring column. Other than that it fit perfectly. The only thing I need to trim is the transmission hump to fit the 2 speed powerglide. Check out my first build up pics on myspace. www.myspace.com/phatdoggieracing



Great project phatdoggie, glad to hear another brave soul is working on a bbc swap.

[knudsonm]

I can\'t believe I never saw this thread. I have a BBC in my Blazer. Not too hard to put in. I did fabricate my own headers though.

[s10carguy]

if you put the big block behind the cab there\'s lots of room to work on the motor. really good weight distribution as well. just be prepared to block sand the bed for countless hours. http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif