electric turbos

[nativesonjls]

I\'ve been reading up on this subject, and had considered using to high powered leaf blower fans and tubing to mod a electric turbo, also considered a 10\" electric fan w/ 1000cfm and fabing a reducer tube to push the ait to the intake. I found this site and the idea seems sound. The setup looks tight and with just a few mods you could use two of them for more flow. What do you guys think.

http://www.autoaccessorystore.com/resource/turbo/electricturbo.asp

[redneckgames]

Well I dont know. A friend of mine used to have an old dodge omni. It was just a beater car. Well it started knocking so they decided to just send it to the crusher. Well he always wanted to try the electric blower idea so we put it on. There was a difference. Not alot but you could tell. When he tried to let off the gas the thing wouldnt stop accelerating. We ended up having to shut the motor off. Opened the hood and looked to see what had happened. One of the blades (plastic) had broke and was lodged in the butterflys.

So I guess what I am saying is this. It might work, but will it really be worth all the effort? and money? If you do make sure you use high quality stuff. And then if you do just look back and realize that with a few hundred more, you could have the real thing.

[grimpuppy]

It\'s all snake oil. Don\'t waste any money on it. Any HP you gain could have easily been gained with better proven mods that are a lot easier to install than a leaf blower. The electric heater motors, boat motors or whatever they are selling as turbos are junk. Always be cautious when they brag about the CFM. Ever wonder why they don\'t state how much boost it is capable of? Because it is about 1 psi of boost once you get the load on it and it has to force air into the motor. You don\'t see B&M (or whoever bought thier blower division) posting CFM numbers with there blowers.

[spacecadet]

Quick Link (http://www.autoaccessorystore.com/resource/turbo/electricturbo.asp)



I put a quick link in for you.

[spacecadet]

I\'d be skeptkal of it thats a fact. Since the blower blows the same velocity all the time, How can it provide an even amount of boost?

Like grimm said \" snake oil\". I have to agree. If you want to throw cash away, just throw it in an envople and mail it to me.

Seriuosly, Save your cash, check into a turbo or a roots blower or ???

Don\'t waste your cash on that though.



Space.

[nativesonjls]

I agree it could be snake oil, but it could be for real, the turbo\'s are activated by a switch inside when you want them, for quick boost, and the fans them selves are self contained so your not likely to have parts fly into the intake, and the electric motors push as much as 250 cfm\'s, not a bad boost level. Guess I\'ll have to try one out on my kids 2.2 s10. We are running time slips next sunday for baseline numbers before we put any parts on my 5.0 89 s10, and his 2.2 96 s10, 84 5.0 mustang, and my 350 79 camaro. Its all snake oil unless it works and you don\'t know till ya try.

[Scotty_S-15]

Maybe if we look at this from a different perspective.... Any forced induction, be it supercharging or turbocharging, is going to burn up some serious HP. That is, it takes substantial HP to spin them up.

......... So, how the heck is some little 1/16HP blower motor going to make a difference? I\'m thinking it\'s not going to make enough of a difference to make a difference. huh? http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[riotpolice75]

to cite and example:



last year i was in school. theres was a guy in my basic electronics class who owned a CRX. this kid was front to back, head to toe, a die hard ricer. you couldnt tell him or prove to him otherwise that hondas werent the fastest cars ever produced by man, he wouldnt hear any of it.



anyways. they guy bought an \"electric turbo\" off of ebay for like $230 and brings it into class wanting to know if we can wire it up into his car during class. the teacher looked at the thing and laughed so hard there were tears in his eyes. the guy bought a $30 bilge blower for an inboard boat motor. still...it didnt phase this guy none. he swore up and down it was gonna make him ton of power.



ok.. the teacher and him hooked it up into the car. he drove it home that night, came back the next morning saying how it made all this power. so they ran it on the dyno. first the baseline without. it made something like 121 horsepower. the run with the \"turbo\" netted him an amazing 1.6 hp gain at idle and a net loss as large as 20 horsepower at 6000 rpm. it was good for at least a 15 horsepower loss pretty much everywhere. the faster the motor spun the less horsepower it made.



to quote that page you just posted up there \"The electric turbo generates 250CFM of forced air into your intake which can be evenly compared to 15-25 shots of Nitrous. Amazing, huh?\"



indeed. amazing that people actually fall for this bullshit.







smith

[riotpolice75]

put it to you this way. that motor puts out 250 CFM at 100% capacity. CFM and PSI are two totally different things. it probably only puts out 1 or 2 PSI at the max. PSI is your boost. note that nowhere in that excuse for an article does it mention boost. secondly. the throttle body on the 2.2 you want to put that thing on probably pulls somewhere to the order of 200 CFM. thats on a small 4 cylinder. now look at that as compared to a v8. the throttle body or carb on even a 305 is rated between 550 - 600 CFM. so right there the air requirement is immediately double or more of what that thing can produce at 100%.



the other thing they say in there is how you have no worries at all about hooking it up to your car. i see that as yea, you dont have to worry because its not gonna make any usable power on your car, in fact the opposite is going to happen. if this thing actually worked like its advertised to work the first thing you would have to worry about is it leaning your motor way down because of the sudden influx of air caused by the motor spinning up and forcing all kinds of excess air into your motor. the second thing you would have to worry about is the boost in cylinder pressure caused by the forced induction.





get a good look at the picture of that thing. then take a ride down to home depot and go into the garden section where they keep the leaf blowers and youll find a whole lot more of them.







smith

[Scotty_S-15]

On 2006-01-30 18:48, riotpolice75 wrote:

put it to you this way. that motor puts out 250 CFM at 100% capacity. CFM and PSI are two totally different things. .................................................. ...................smith



I was going to say pretty much the same thing. It\'s one thing to produce air flow, but quite another to produce the flow AT PRESSURE. Chances are, the blower would need a different design. That is, impeller and housing shapes & tolerances.

[riotpolice75]

i worked at home depot for 2 years. for 8 months of that i was the tool tech in teh tool rental dept. ive had about a million of them things apart. its a leaf blower.







smith

[DROPPEDATBIRTH]

no offense to anyone here but are we actually discussing this, the single speed electric turbo is the biggest gimmic on the market, you would make more hp by sticking your air filter thru the hood.

[char]

honestly i think this should be closed. its a joke... volume and pressure guys... 300 cfm at 1 psi is like driving with your hood off.... 800 to 1000 cfm at 18 psi is boost... i honestly think you will lose performance being that thers a blockade infront of a demanding v8 or v6 motor no way, to left turns to hell would that be effective.

[viprus]

i wonder how much more power i could get out of my snowblower with one of these things O.o