Nitrous is for cheaters, IMO

[Fathead]

Ok, i think nitrous is for cheaters about 90% of the time, and here is a good example of why. The other night, i was across the border, in Osoyoos, talkin to my other friend that i just found that has a 305 s-10. I was talkin to him, then he had to run for a second. I see this purple corolla pull up, big exhaust, and a wing, thats all i see. I kinda ask him if he knows anyone around here that races, he says he does, so i was like ok, lets go. He then says, \"wheres the money\" i was like \"oh, just for fun\", hes like \"no, $5000 down\"(remember is canadian, but alot of money), i was like what the hell. He then says he has nitrous and if he races its for money. He had a COMPLETELY STOCK ENGINE, and will use nitrous to maybe beat me, but i have to put 5 grand down, so he can fix his stock engine after burnin it up with nitrous. That is why i think nitrous is for cheaters.

[Mike]

He\'s full of crap



He said that so he wouldn\'t have to race you and lose.



\"Gee, lets go find someone to race me for $5,000, and toast my engine, and if I lose I\'m out $5,000 and an engine. \"





I do not think so.



http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Diablo]

Nitrious was mostly brought on by fast and furious i believe... but I think u should run all engine, hell get a supercharger or turbo, not damned nitrous thats an only 1 time boost, get something thats always boosting.. =-)

[mango86]

My wife and I were out takin a cruise in the blazer, Just enjoyin the day. We were fixin ta cross over the Dam when this mustang jumped on my bumper. We don\'t street race, but I will hammer the floor once in a while. This feller decided to blow by us showin off and was givin us the # one sign. Pissed me and the little lady off. We followed for bout an 1/8 mile and I said should I, she said yes, so hammerin we go, pulled up beside the stang and he mashed the pedal, no cars around us, dropped into second and started pullin him bad, he hits the Nitrious and boom! guess we got the last laugh. Thats why I don\"t run the stuff. My two cents. Vern

[s15laynrubba]

<!-- BBCode Quote Start --><TABLE BORDER=5 bordercolor= ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font size=-5>Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE=-10><BLOCKQUOTE> Ok, i think nitrous is for cheaters about 90% of the time, and here is a good example of why. The other night, i was across the border, in Osoyoos, talkin to my other friend that i just found that has a 305 s-10. I was talkin to him, then he had to run for a second. I see this purple corolla pull up, big exhaust, and a wing, thats all i see. I kinda ask him if he knows anyone around here that races, he says he does, so i was like ok, lets go. He then says, \"wheres the money\" i was like \"oh, just for fun\", hes like \"no, $5000 down\"(remember is canadian, but alot of money), i was like what the hell. He then says he has nitrous and if he races its for money. He had a COMPLETELY STOCK ENGINE, and will use nitrous to maybe beat me, but i have to put 5 grand down, so he can fix his stock engine after burnin it up with nitrous. That is why i think nitrous is for cheaters. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->



I dont think its cheating.Especially if the guy told you he was gonna run it.I always used it as an edge up.I always thought as racing as a poker hand.You gotta 50% chance.I ran a guy one time in a mustang for a grand and he missed a shift and backfired using nitrous.Needless to say i won.When i was 17 i raced a older guy with a nova against my chevelle for $20.I really thought i had a chance of winning because his nova was running awful( backfiring and missing).When we got ready to line them up, he hollered at his brother to come over and look under the hood of the nova.Next thing i knew is he was pulling 1st and 2nd gear ith the front wheels dangling.I lost that one.The guy had left 2 spark plug wires off to simulate a badly tuned and missing engine, he had his brother to hook them up once we were line up.http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif Did i think he was cheating? No.Did i know not to judge a book by it cover next time? Yes.http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif



<!-- BBCode Quote Start --><TABLE BORDER=5 bordercolor= ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=85%><TR><TD><font size=-5>Quote:</font><HR></TD></TR><TR><TD><FONT SIZE=-10><BLOCKQUOTE> Nitrious was mostly brought on by fast and furious i believe </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->





Me and some of my High School buddies were \"purging\" back in the mid 80\'s



http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[ZZ4Blazer]

Wining is wining, no matter how you look at it. I don\'t see how one power adder is considered cheating over the next. If his power to weight ratio is better than yours, you just got beat. Simple as that.

[Fathead]

yeah, i guess its not just cheating, but i think you should mod up your engine first, b4 you add that, instead of just having it on a stock engine so you can race for big bucks, win, blow your engine. I think if you got power already, go ahead, but if not, build up your engine first. Oh yeah, and i did race him, w/o nitrous, i killed him by like 6 cars or so, just for fun.

[Knanthrup]

It\'s not cheating. Your engine performance can depend upon it from several factors, and vise versa. For example, some engine are built just for nitrious use... nitrious cam, forged internals, compression, etc. It may come down to nitrious vs. nitrious and whoever wins is the guy who built the engine to run the bigger shot.



I dunno, I have a certain respect for nitrious because even the pros use it in certain classes. The one thing that really ruins the image of it are the kids who put a 25 shot on their stock hondas. Then again, that 25 shot isn\'t gonna do much and they can\'t run a big enough shot to make a huge difference because of their lack of mechanical superiority.



My opinion is that nitrious has a correlation with engine performance and mechanical performance itself. My biggest grudge against it is that it\'s pretty much a temporary power adder, whereas you use a blower or turbo constantly.

[vseventyone]

In my opinion nitrous can be beneficial to the people who prefer to have a vehicle that is more drivable on a daily basis. Nitrous is a temporary power adder but thats one of its benefits. An all motor high horsepower vehicles can be sometimes hard to drive daily. Nitrous can help the enthuisist that has built his internals to handle the power of nitrous, and still drive a vehicle that can be easier drive when the power is not desired. Turbos and superchargers present drivability problems . With nitrous you can still get decent gas milage and drivabilty when you are not using it. As for the people who slap a nos kit on their stock car and use it in an unsafe manner I have no respect for . But for the people who build a motor that can handle 500 hp and drive daily with 300 with a 150 or 200 shot for the track, I do respect and admire.

[tuknrm]

nitrous is what going to get me in the 10.90 class with a daily driver.

[fasrnur]

All throttle and no bottle!!!! Anyone can add some laughing gas to make their ride faster. It takes knowledge,talent and a lot of practice to make a ride turn quick times without it. Oh...and a lot more money. http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif



Just my 2 cents folks.

Jeff.....

[Satanklawz]

first of all nitrous did not come from the fast and the furious, it was around LONG before that show. it was just popularized by the movie. and second, nitrous DOES NOT hurt motors, STUPID PEOPLE hurt motors if you slap a 150 shot of somthing you better take the necessary precautions to make it run right or else you are gonna blow your engine up.

[rudedogg]

imo,spray that mutha.run whatcha brung and hope ya brung enuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rudedogg]

spray that mutha!!!!!!!!!!!run whatcha brung and hope ya brung enuff!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[Fergusonic]

When you go to a track; there are regulated classes depending on power plant etc.(Exluding grudge matches).

When you go to the street.....you\'re on your own because nothing is regulated; therefore anything goes. IMHO

[jimmya]

I don\'t think you can buy a kit for a civic big enough to blow up the engine unless the guy is just plain dumb.the computer enriches the fuel according to the bottle pressure on most newer kits for those stupid imports.(sorry honda owners, but all you do at the track is take up space!) whats funny is a new honda being pushed half a mile to the staging lanes because thats how the big boys do it.I don\'t think overheating is a concern.

also, nitrous is only costly if you don\'t know enough about it.if its cheating, then what about blowers or turbos?

[jimmya]

I don\'t think you can buy a kit for a civic big enough to blow up the engine unless the guy is just plain dumb.the computer enriches the fuel according to the bottle pressure on most newer kits for those stupid imports.(sorry honda owners, but all you do at the track is take up space!) whats funny is a new honda being pushed half a mile to the staging lanes because thats how the big boys do it.I don\'t think overheating is a concern.

also, nitrous is only costly if you don\'t know enough about it.if its cheating, then what about blowers or turbos?

[ZZ4Blazer]

Not all nitrous kits feed fuel like that. I believe only the Zex system is like that. I\'ve talked to plenty of guys running too much nitrous and blowing up their motors. Not all from not tuning, but too much hp shot.



One guy I\'ve talked to cracked the block on his 4.3 with a 175 shot.

[zz5s10blazer]

One thing to say. \"BOTTLES ARE FOR BABIES!\" http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[wickeds10]

On 2003-06-16 13:17, rudedogg wrote:

imo,spray that mutha.run whatcha brung and hope ya brung enuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whats imo?

[s15laynrubba]

whats imo?



In my opinion

[rudedogg]

i guess i am a big baby cause i love the bottle http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif most people that dont like n2o heard horror stories but did not hear that the person with it did something wrong in the install or the tune up i lost 1 engine due to the use of nitrous the engine had 200k on it and it made 13 strong passes w/150 the timing chain(original)broke and destroyed a bunch o stuff was it the fault of nitrous NO my big thumb and right foot did it.....

[speeder]

If nitrous is cheating, then how about having an S-10 with a V8. I guess that most of us here are cheaters then. But for those of you that think that bottles are for babies and that nitrous is bad, then you never looked at bang-for-the buck. Many of us that have a life, and a girl cannot just dump money in our truck to no end. For a $500 kit you can add 150-175 HP to your engine. I think that the K&N filter is about comparable, but that is usually not more than 15HP. You can buy nitrous for $1/lb, so I think that it is an efficient way of beating those of you that whine and not go. It also has the same show-off effect as bagging a truck, or putting a big stereo in it, or wheels. I might not like some of that, but I do not come out and say bad things about them, just \'cause I do not get it. Try and post something about lowering your truck being bad, or custom rims for over 10,000 being bad. Maybe next thing will be that going fast is bad. I think that it is enough to hear that from Mom and the cops, I do not need to hear from a person that put a V8 in their underpowered S-10.

One more thing, if a 4 cylinder from a compact car with nitrous can beat a V8, then you must have done something wrong, since those cars cannot run more than a 75 shot without blowing up, so 175HP V8 conversion is a waste of money. that is my opinoin

[s10trev]

Here\'s the deal.....anyone can build any car or motor to be faster than yours....any. If its a big block or a 2 liter honda. But the deal is money. I have 3000 in my truck including the cost of the truck, it\'ll run a 8.3; A Brand new Engine, newer turbo350....so on so fourth

......I waited for the deals....and that 350 chevy\'s are the cheapest to build, s-10s are a dime a duzzun. Thats why i like my truck. Cheap, fast, ugly and it sounds wicked. Now i\'ve seen ricers on N2O or turbo\'s or anything and they were fast, but they spent way more money than you or me......N2O is cheap hp if you do it right, just like cheap fast s-10s http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[alz]

nitrous is for the WILLING,, thats the way some choose to hop it up and others do it the the other way ! Dont criticize how others turn there wheels We are all out there for the same reason

[TRY2HNG]

Plain and simple, If you plan on racing, be prepared to win AND loose! If you loose, dont cry cause they had NOS. Nitrous was made for racing, just like any other performance add-on. If you go to any dragstrip in America and claim Nitrous is cheating you will be against the majority.

[miah]

How can something that makes you faster be a bad thing? Whats next? using stock exhaust manifolds becasue headers free up too much hp? If your not spraying your giving up basicly free hp.

[Fathead]

well, people seem to be taking me the wrong way. What i am trying to say is if used on a stock engine, its cheating, if you put in some time and money to first build your engine and make a little go fast ponies first, its alright, but having nitrous as your only power adder, other than like intake, is stupid. Lets see if that cleared things up.

[miah]

if someone can run nitrous on stock cast pistons for more than a few sprays and the motor runs fine, then that is awesome. Why put money were you dont have to?

[jimmya]

nitrous is good for 2 different reasons. the first, competitive drag racing a fast truck that runs a heck of a lot better than it should for the money I have in it (see my profile). the second , you can put it on a virtually stock car and smoke some ass, and nobody seen it coming.

[speeder]

I think that anyone that whines like a mustang owner, when they get their ass kicked is a baby and can just go ahead and whine. Many of us can just take the defeat with pride and ask the person, while they are handing us our ass, \"Hey that was a nice race, what do you have? Maybe I can learn something from you today\". There is always someone faster out there... I know about the money and betting, but still...

So if you want to whine, just get a mustang, so everyone will know from far away that this guy will call me a cheater when I beat him. He will be angry and will give me the finger when I pass him. Anyhow calling nitrous cheating makes me very angry, since cheater applies that nitrous is some thing that is against the rules, when in racing the light is the only rule setter. Maybe racing is too high risk for some and staying away from racing is the only solution. If there is a rule that I missed that says that nitrous on a stock motor is not allowed, please show us and I will stop ranting about nitrous. You must admit that it is funny that on a forum for building semi or full race-trucks someone says that nitrous is cheating.

[Fathead]

Ok, you guys have me convinced, its not just for cheaters, is just an easier way of some extra HP, but i guess if you can run it and not ruin stuff, more power to ya. Maybe ill have to give this stuff a shot.