Which tranny...

[Bobwilson84]

My 92 has the 2.8 and the t-5 manual tranny.

I\'m swapping with a 350 TPI from a camaro or firebird, but I\'m not sure about the tranny. I\'d like to keep manual, but it seems like the only manual strong enough is the camaro tranny, which wont mount up to my cross member, and will require lots of modifications. (is this true?)

If this is as much work as it seems, I\'ll use the 700-R4 from a 350 TPI. -Which I\'m sure will have it\'s share of work involved.

What do you guys think i should do? I really want to keep standard, but it seems too involved.

What have you guys, with the stock 5 speed used behind your V8s?

thanks guys

[riotpolice75]

On 2003-10-25 20:35, Bobwilson84 wrote:

seems like the only manual strong enough is the camaro tranny, which wont mount up to my cross member, and will require lots of modifications. (is this true?)





it is most definately NOT TRUE. i got a t5 from a camaro in mine. you might have to elongate the hole on the crossmember a little bit. thats all i had to do, took a good 5 minutes to do it. the only major difference is the placement of the stick. the stick on a camaro t5 is on the end of the tailshaft so if you get one youll have to make a new hole for the stick and cover the old one up. its pretty easy.



the tough part is the hydraulics for the clutch. the hydraulics for the s 10 all use screw in fittings, the camaro uses snap in fittings. you need the master cyl. from the s 10 and the slave from the camaro. the line that goes in between them you can either make or have made. id suggest having it made. its a royal pain in the arse makin it yourself and have it not leak. overall its an easy install though.



your other 2 choices are the nv3500 from the 4.3 blazers and fullsize pickup trucks, indestructible tranny. and the 6 speed from the later model camaro and vette, also indestructible.







smith

[Bobwilson84]

thats cool, I gotta figure out a arm rest. maybe pull the one out of the camaro, and use it, any other ideas?

[riotpolice75]

you could just do away with it entirely and put a fire extinguisher there like i did. its fully functional, it looks good and it makes people wonder \"why in the hell does he have a fire exstinguisher in here?\"







smith

[Bobwilson84]

+ I want to make sure I can use the orignal unmodified drive shaft, is the truck T5 the same length as the Camaro T5?

[Bobwilson84]

yea, but the the T-5 camaro tranny never came with a 350 Tpi and is not strong enough. I think it\'s rated at like 300 ft/lbs. I can\'t figure out what manual tranny came with the 350tpi, maybe the t56?

[ZZ4Blazer]

On 2003-10-26 02:40, Bobwilson84 wrote:

yea, but the the T-5 camaro tranny never came with a 350 Tpi and is not strong enough. I think it\'s rated at like 300 ft/lbs. I can\'t figure out what manual tranny came with the 350tpi, maybe the t56?





Really? Cause I\'d swear my buddy has one. Friend of a friend kinda thing, never paid much attention to it.



Using the F-body T5 can be a PITA when using headers. The headers run right into the slave cylinder on the hellhousing. I know from personal experence, since my 6 speed is a bolt on replacement for the T5.



I am using the 84-92 T5 F-body bellhousing and slave cylinder. I had to cut off the collector, and reposition a longer one. Its really tight.



I believe you said you werent\' gonna do any real racing with this truck. If you want a manual, Id look for the NV3500. Same length as the 700R4, and everythings a bolt on installation. These are rated the same as the T5\'s

[speeder]

700R4 is the cheap and easy way to go they are easy to mount they have great ratio, no clutch probs, S10 came with it so driveshaft and crossmembers are both available. I say automatic!

[Bobwilson84]

I know from personal experence, since my 6 speed is a bolt on replacement for the T5.



I am using the 84-92 T5 F-body bellhousing and slave cylinder



Hey ZZ4Blazer, what 6 speed are you talking about!? I would do alot of work to get a 6 speed!

[riotpolice75]

I believe you said you werent\' gonna do any real racing with this truck. If you want a manual, Id look for the NV3500. Same length as the 700R4, and everythings a bolt on installation. These are rated the same as the T5\'s



3500\'s are rated higher than the t5. and yes, the stock driveshaft will fit. although id recommend puttin some bigger u joints in it.







smith

[rudedogg]

t-5 is a p.o.s,blew up tooo many in my t/a w/a 5.7 and they were the world class t-5s at that,harsh driving w/a t-5 just dont cut it..to clarify the \"factory 5.7w/t-5\"yes the cars do exist but they were never sold to the public,they new it was a time bomb! http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[avewhtboy]

We used to race a 92 Iroc with the 305/5spd because the 350 TPI had no manual trans available. For sure would not want to use an older T5 we killed them with the 305. Like they have said here....use the 6spd or NV3500 if you want to stay with a stick. Best thing would be scrap the TPI motor idea and get an LT1/6spd from a camaro or better yet and LS1/6spd but that is even more difficult of a swap to perform. With the LT1 you save weight because you have Aluminum heads. LS1 is all aluminum so even lighter with more HP

[Bobwilson84]

I think the 6 speed you are talking about is just a T56, that can be mounted behind the TPI. But from what i\'ve heard I think I\'m going with the NV3500 or 700-R4. the 700-R4 just looks like it is 5000 times easier to install. Someone correct me if I\'m wrong!!!

thanks yall

[ZZ4Blazer]

Since yours is already stickshift, the 5 speed probably will be easier.

[JayDee]

What about using a Richmond 5 speed?

Jeg\'s has em for only $1899.99 plus truck freight. Sounds like a lot, but you\'ll only have to buy it once.

[Bobwilson84]

I read up more on the NV3500, they are hard to come by, I\'d like to rebuild one before I install it, You guys know any good kits.? How hard will that be?

Will the S-10 NV3500 from 92+ handle a 350 TPI from a Camaro?

thanks guys, this has helped so much.

[TRY2HNG]

Just for the record,,, In 1989 Chevrolet offered a little known, special order only 1LE option on the Camaro IROC-Z. It was a 350TPI attached to the T-5 Transmission. NO problems with tranny. I have even seen one of these run with a Paxton and slicks with no problems with the T-5. However if you can afford and find one,,,, the 6-speed is superior for gas mileage and top speed potential.

[Bobwilson84]

Could you build up a T5 to handle more than the 300 ft/lbs of torque? I Not goign to race my truck, but I don\'t want to end up on the side of the road with a busted tranny. I might down size to the 305 TPI, this way I know I wont have any problems, I\'m sure the 305 would be an improvement from my 2.8.

[FastBikesRule]

http://www.g-forcetransmissions.com/tran_gt-5.asp

[Knanthrup]

3500\'s are rated higher than the t5. and yes, the stock driveshaft will fit. although id recommend puttin some bigger u joints in it.







smith





This is untrue. Both the Camaro T5\'s and the NV3500 are rated at 300lb.ft. Also, the driveshaft typically does not bolt right in. I had to have my shortened 3 inches to fit, although part of it was from my suspension drop... typically you might need 1-2. Other than that it bolts in without too much trouble. Why would you put bigger u-joints in?





I read up more on the NV3500, they are hard to come by, I\'d like to rebuild one before I install it, You guys know any good kits.?





Yes, they are hard to come by. I searched 8 wrecking yards in the area, and finally found a national parts dealer that shipped me one from 2 states away. It wouldn\'t be a bad idea to check out the internals before you install... the synchros are known to get some nasty wear if it\'s used hard.





How hard will that be?

Will the S-10 NV3500 from 92+ handle a 350 TPI from a Camaro?

thanks guys, this has helped so much.





Any NV3500 from an S10 \'89 and up will be rated at the same 300lb.ft. and if you plan on keeping the 350 TPI stock, it will easily handle it. If you start modding then it pushes into the grey zone, but I wouldn\'t really start to worry until you decide to run slicks and launch hard.



Either way good luck with your project. You might take a look at my article on installing an NV3500.

[Bobwilson84]

Thanks Knanthrup!, I read your install notes, learned alot.

As for the T5

Is the mustang T5 the same as the Camaro? I\'ve seen Borg Warner, World Class, and Tremec all make T5, Which one came with the Camaro? The Borg Warner T5 right? is it the same as the F__d Mustang T5?

thanks guys, This has helped a ton!!!

When I get done you all get a drive