Bush or Kerry? How do you feel

[smittie1984]

Well I\'ve been feeling political lately. So I\'m going to ask.



Who do you want to vote for when election time comes around. Or you don\'t have to say who you are going to vote for but give out information on one of them. That way we can be more informed



Now I don\'t want to hear. (Redneck yelling tone) \"Man, Kerry sucks because he protested the vietnam war\". Put something like \"I don\'t like Kerry bringing up the vietnam war because what he did in it is a little shaky and I\'m not sure of how so called BRAVELY he served\"



Use intellegence.



As for me. I\'m going for Bush. I think he is a good president. When it comes to the war on terrorism and the war in Iraq. As for the economy. I don\'t know much about it. I don\'t see how he could have such a big effect on it. But apparently he does. I always felt that it was Alan Greenspan who ran that.



But tell me you opinion and remember to USE INTELLIGENCE

[miah]

I will not be voting for bush because he keeps passing bills to send jobs elseware. He allowed the drug companies to keep their prescription prices high. And then hes trying to keep people from buying drugs from canada.



Many large companies that are essential to the economy in my part of the state are moving to Mexico. Its really sad to see a 40 year old father flipping burgers.



Also he is putting loads of money into the space program. \"yeah great idea, instead of spending money here, how about we build a space station on the moon\"



I believe bush is like a kid in a candy store. He wants everything but wont take care of what he has.

[my454s10]

im sure you know by now that i am a full time college student..any way my first class requirment is american federal goverment...it\'s like this...when you skin a snake ..and you are a repulican..you skin it from the head down..if you are a deomcrat you skin it from the tail up...either way you are getting skined...but im not voting for bush...he lied his butt off about weapon of mass destrction..and now we are up to our necks in dead marines..army men ..etc... and the president has a huge factor in the enconmy

[Wendell]

i am voting for bush. don\'t know much on his performance about producing jobs but i do know he won\'t take no crap from some bafoon that brain is baked so bad he has to wear a rag on his head to keep it from completely evaporating. so if anyone wants to vote for kerry go right ahead it is your right. but remember this, if he was to become president and this great country of ours gets hit like it did on 9/11. bet ya he won\'t do nothing but raise taxes or he may pull out of the middle east all together and that would be in vain of all our brave men and women that has paid the ultimate sacrifice. kerry = scary.

[Ike]

Simple question......



Who would AlQueda vote for?



Bush has made some mistakes, but at least he is trying to do something for this country, and not himself. Also think about the consequences of pulling out of Iraq now, that country would become worse than ever with no form of order.

[Bobwilson84]

We need a president who wont take shit from other countrys. The last thing we need right now is a passivist like John Kerry, he would put so many things off, and shy away from everything. In the end we would be totally screwed becuase nothing was ever dealt with.

I\'m tired of all these famous people complaining about Bush, (Miachel Moore) and his followers. He messes around with so many stats it\'s sickning. Go to www.bowlingfortruth.com and see all the crap he makes up.

So long story short, don\'t listen to the celebs who think they know a damn thing about politics, Think about the situation we are in right now, and who is going to lead us through it.

VOTE BUSH!!!

[mlhj]

I agree with Wendell and Bobwilson84. The only thing Bush has me upset about is the over time pay, he is way better then Clinton was. If Gore was in office we would be hiding under his desk crying and the same thing for Kerry.



So I plan on voting for Bush this time.



Marvin

[rflunt]

don\'t care for either but hate Bush worse. Sending in young men to die while pretending to be brave doesn\'t qualify him as taking no sh!t in my book. Qualifies him as wuss who got in office because he is rich and a Bush. Just my opinion though. Neither party truely does whats best for the country mostly whats best for the special interests groups that supported them to get them there. Done ranting.

[s15laynrubba]

NADER

[Wendell]

On 2004-04-28 15:18, s15laynrubba wrote:

NADER



LOL

[Wendell]

if nader was president he would make it so we couldn\'t do what we do with our s-dimes.

remember the corvairs and convertables?

[riotpolice75]

screw bush.







smith

[akajoker]

BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for anyone that has read the other post about what someone heard on the radio, I\'m pro-Bush all the way. That however does not mean I agree with him, there are several areas that I disagree with him on his stance, Immigration, social security,and medicare/medicade, and prescription drugs, BUT the most important issue to me is our security, and that he has my vote on... Flip flop Jon(Kerry) isnt supportive of the war, or wait is he today, he changes his mind daily depend on which way the wind is blowing, We NEED someone in the oval office with moral clarity, conviction, and not afraid to stick his neck out for something he believes in, and all those things my friends are things Jon Kerry doenst posess.



My .02

[FordWizKid]

I agree with Riot screw Bush. I think he did what was in the best interest of our fine country, however I do not belive for a second his motives are pure. I do not think Kerry is the right man either, but in my mind hes the only alternative. I will not vote Bush thats for sure. Oh by the way I got my Nv3500 in the other day ! Just thought I\'d throw that in.

[s10maniac24]

the economy is not bush\'s fault. that was caused by 9/11. i don\'t care whether there was weapons of mass dest. or not. we needed to get rid of saddam. also, this whole 9/11 commision is bull. bush could not have done much to prevent the attacks. if you\'re going to play the blame game, go back to reagon, when we got attacked for the first time. clinton did nothing about al-queada during his administration either. if we had gore or kerry as pres., we might not have fought at all.

I\'m for bush.

[Scotty_S-15]

Bush is \'da man.

1) While I disagree with some of his far-right stances, like the air-wave decency stuff, abortion rights, weed, etc. Bush faaaar beats the alternative.

2) The Republicans know what an economy needs. A good economy needs years to develop. In some past administrations, the Democrats enjoyed a good economy that the Republicans built, but didn\'t get a chance to enjoy.

3) Has anyone noticed that Bush doesn\'t take the easy road, he takes the correct road, regardless of the political fallout. It takes \"big ones\" to make a decision that you know is the proper one, but could keep you from being re-elected. Not many politicians could do that.

4) Sending jobs overseas... yeah it hurts, but get used to it. We\'re now in a global economy, we\'ve got to compete with the world. If your factory closed, yeah that sucks, but learn a trade and get back to work. Happened to me long time back. It\'d be a mistake to try to hold jobs here that could be done cheaper overseas.

5) The Dems messed up BIG-TIME in nominating Kerry. He is such a DEEK!! His ideas blow with the wind.... Almost any of the other candidates would have been a better choice.

6) Iraq? WMD? What do you expect when Saddam DID convince us and the rest of the world that he DID have WMD. Besides, we sure are keeping those terrorists busy over there, aren\'t we?

7) I hate what the Dems did in the 90s, hog-tying the CIA and FBI. They literally cut the GONADS off those agencies. Because of those policies, the morale of those agencies was at an all time low, they were afraid to make a move.

............ While this is hearsay, I was told that in that era, the Dems spearheaded a policy change so that no money could be paid to a foreign informant unless his background were checked and was found to not have any criminal record. If true, isn\'t that ridiculous?

Scotty

[Wendell]

I nominate Scotty_S-15 for prez. you-da-man

http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/beer.gif

[smittie1984]

scoty s 15 I feel has made the best argument. Organized and he has done his homework. He pretty much said what I feel but he can write it down better than me.



And for those of you in College let me warn you about those professers. Though I may not be in college and I doubt I\'ll ever go. But I know enough about professers to tell you that you only want to listen to them to pass the class. Don\'t listen to their opinion. Most of them aren\'t from America anyways.



But you need to listen to them somewhat too. But don\'t take what they say for gold. Because it usually isn\'t worth it\'s shit in weight.



The only reason Kerry is so popular is because of \"main stream\" media. If you listen to the real non main stream media they usually are for Bush. And not only for Bush but thinks he is a great president. Listen to talk radio. They know everything because they look for the real stuff.



But anyways I have to say Scotty you made some good points.

[mlhj]

I also think, we need to give Bush a little slack. He was put in a tough situation when 911 happen, a lot more then what a normal president would have to do in office. No matter who is the President their would always be something you like or dislike about him or her work for this great country.



It is not a perfect world we live in.



Marvin

[spacecadet]

Well, even though I think Bush has made a few mistakes here and there, I think He IS the best man for the job. He took a problem that Clinton was too scared to face and is adressing it. If Bush SR. would have been able to take care of this to begin with we wouldn\'t have had to deal with this this way. Besides Clinton may not have been in office screwing up everything in sight.



Quote wendell: \"I nominate Scotty_S-15 for prez. you-da-man\"

I agree. Scotty_s-15 is A person who know his stuff!



Now matter what, even if a dem gets elected into office, I must say hopefully he does the right thing by following Bush\'s lead. Unfortunatley for bush If that happens, the Dem will get credit for all his good work.

[fasrnur]

The first thing I said to my wife when it was made offical that Bush was made president was....\"wonder who we\'ll go to war with first\"

Now I know that we need to protect our country from our enimies,but are ALL other countries our enimies? Benlodin is the man we\'re after and we\'re in Iraq? HMMM! Makes me wonder if he\'s not just trying to complete what daddy couldn\'t.

Now as for the ecomomy,why were we in the toilet during the Regan and Bush Sr. time, and flurished during the Clinton time? HMMM!

Clinton was just like any of the other lieing s.o.b.\'s that we put in there...he just got caught and the media had a field day with it.



Now these are my oppions and they are like belly buttons....eveyone has one.



Jeff.....

[fasrnur]

On 2004-04-29 12:33, fasrnur wrote:

The first thing I said to my wife when it was made offical that Bush was made president was....\"wonder who we\'ll go to war with first\"

Now I know that we need to protect our country from our enimies,but are ALL other countries our enimies? Benlodin is the man we\'re after and we\'re in Iraq? HMMM! Makes me wonder if he\'s not just trying to complete what daddy couldn\'t.

Now as for the ecomomy,why were we in the toilet during the Regan and Bush Sr. time, and flurished during the Clinton time? HMMM!

Clinton was just like any of the other lieing s.o.b.\'s that we put in there...he just got caught and the media had a field day with it.



Now these are my oppions and they are like belly buttons....eveyone has one.

Can you gues who I\'m NOT voting for? LOL

Jeff.....



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[smittie1984]

Man this is going to be a close race. Everyone is divided.



Now I have heard they are close to capturing Bin Laden. They think they have him cornerd pretty well and should have him pretty soon. Now if this does happen and before election time. It\'s over.



Kerry might as well drop out. Because Bush would win it all the way.



Also when you become president you reap the benefits of the one before you. Clinton did good with the economy because Reagon and Bush sr. did good with the economy. Even though it appeared bad when Reagon and Bush sr where in office. Change doesn\'t happen overnight. Did you notice how it started going down at the end years of Clinton. Gee I wonder why is that.



And as for Helping out the Rich and Giving to the Poor. Now think about this. Especially you \"Poor\" people out there. Who employs you? RICH PEOPLE!!! And when they classify Rich they mean 200k plus a year. Not just huge corporations like GM. And when they say give it to the poor they mean the POOR. Not the middle class. They get nothing. But anyways if you keep the Rich happy they can employ more of us \"Poor\" people. If you try to make them Poor like us they don\'t want to hire as many people.



You need to think about it.

[ben442]

I agree with fasmur the reason we got attacked on 9/11 was because of the first bush. We stomped all over there holy ground and they retaliated. And look,now saddam is out and they still don\'t want us there. Republicans are always out for corporate america, that\'s who lines there pockets. I can\'t believe people don\'t care about factory jobs this is total bull$hit, if you let them take the small ones they\'ll take the big ones too. Don\'t think your job is safe just because you don\'t work in a factory. Bush wants to have companys from other country\'s come do our work in america. Yes, that means as long as the worker works for this company they don\'t need citizenship. This is another bush proposition. We don\'t need the goods that are imported from other country\'s,usaully it is poorly made and I don\'t blame these workers for the craftmanship they put out ($1.00 pr hr).The same people that are bitching about not being able to find work drive like kias and they wonder why. I ask them if they got a korean bomb with that kia at the dealership. That\'s all your doing is supporting korea when you buy one. Next time you buy something at the store and there is five different lauguages in the directions and it breaks within 6 months don\'t get pissed because you probably voted for this. And the econmy is bad because of 9/11 what........ just how long does it take to recover. The economy is bad because where putting in all our money for this war,No new jobs are being created, Health care is through the roof, unemployment is high, more and more jobs are being lost. there is no funding for buildings, schools etc. do you know why the overtime thing passed? Because bush would\'nt let any funding released until congress passed it, what a spoiled little brat. This guy does\'nt know the meaning of work his daddy took care of him. He\' always had money and and his bottom pampered. He always say\'s he believes in the american people he\'d better where struggling if he really cared he would\'nt have even thought to take away overtime, put a limit on what these greedy healthcare companies are charging, let us get presciptions from canada if he doesn\'t want to put a cap on there prices. kepp jobs in america and quit giving the companies huge tax cuts for sending OUR work elsewhere, put a tax on goods coming in so people have choice of craftsmanship over price, pay taxes on what you buy yearly instead of what you make ( that\'ll put the republicans in poor house fast), quit worrying about what\'s going on in other countries when the one you run is totlally messed up, quit with the lying about wmd\'s ( clinton was almost impeached for a b.j.), realize that if we continue this war on terror we will be broke, and then any country can move in on us, get the u.n. invovled, quit preaching christianity when people are dying at the hands of your descision, go after the real guy who blew up the buildings (oooooh wait osama will be caught a month before voting time.) NEED I GO ON. The cons outweigh the pro\'s. Kerry isn\'t great either but, considering the alternatives this is where my vote is going and four years and he sucks well then I\'ll vote against him. I don\'t think we will make it with bush chopping us down every chance he gets. If you look closely when bush is on t.v. you can see the strings they have the label corporate america on them because he is nothing but a puppet.This bush will follow in his father\'s footsteps a one hit wonder. And, to the whole he\'s upfront with his motives thing..... yes he is and it\'s not because he has big ones it\'s because he thinks he\'s god and nobody can take him down.To many people have scars from both bushes and they\'ll show come voting time.

[mzoomora]

I think when you look at politicians you have to vote for who is closest on the MAIN issues. For me I agree with Bush on the defense. Saddam may not have had WMD, but then why wouldnt he agree to inspections without stalling? He is wrong on the economy, which is also huge. Sending jobs overseas during a slowly recovering economy sounds like a bad idea no matter how you justify it. The overseas banking is way out of contol and he doesn\'t do anything about that either, and that is lost tax dollars. Kerry\'s biggest mistake was taking the \"war hero\" image away by being anti-defense, that image could have been his greatest advantage. And finally, those people who will tell you how great a republican economy is, ask all the people who tried to buy houses int the early 80\'s with interest rates in the teens. If Clinton was truly living off of a republican economy me sure did a great job of stretching it for 8 years. Anyway, no one party or candidate is going to represent everything that you want in you government, so it comes down to who is closest. Right now for me it is Bush.

Also..

There are no small wars. Even if only 2 soldiers died over there it would be a tragedy. The loss of any young Americans life is tragic, here or abroad. So the next time they want to compare it to Vietnam and say \"it\'s not AS bad\", ask yourself if you would agree if your family members were there.

[smittie1984]

I want to vote for Bush



I mean Anheuser Busch!!! http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[akajoker]

WE got attacked becuase of the 1st Bush? WHAT???????? We were attacked for what we stand for, you know the FREEDOMS you ENJOY DAILY! that is why we were attacked, it(our freedoms) go against everything their religion stands for, they are nothing more than religeous extremists. Ok Im going to call you out on this one Ben, \"Bush wants to have companys from other country\'s come do our work in america. Yes, that means as long as the worker works for this company they don\'t need citizenship\" where do you get this at, becuase it is simply FALSE, but what I think you are talking about is his Immigration policy where immigrants can work for a certain amount of time and NOT have to be a citizen, doing the jobs employers CANT get anyone else to do.. how do I know, ever worked at a chicken plant? I have, when I was going to school.. it SUCKS! mostly mexicans, why? it\'s discusting.. plain and simple..please before you post something, make sure you can back it up....



Im not sure if you realize, but the economy isnt going to recover in the blink of an eye.. Look at the airline industry, look how big of a hit it has taken, why? People are/where afraid to fly, airline industry effects almost every fassat of life, traveling, packages, consumable goods etc etc..unemployment is thru the roof.. well heres the stats unployement is 5.7%, after he 9/11 attacked the highest it got was 6.3%, 5.7 is lower than 6.3 meaning MORE JOBs not less.. here\'s my proof Labor Statistics (http://stats.bls.gov/news.release/jec.nr0.htm)



I will agree with you on healthcare, i think it is high, although I dont agree with going thru Canada necessarly, but it might be an option, and for anyone that dont know the reason the drugs in canada are so much lower is that the drug prices are set by the Canadian govt, but the reason we cant get them easily is that the regulation requirements for canadian drugs and american drugs are much different.



I am not sure if you have watched any news over the past yr, but if you did maybe you noticed all the mass grave sites in Iraq, rape rooms, torture chambers. With the mass graves, how do ya think most of the ppl were killed? Try Biological AND chemical weapons(aka wmd\'s) he used them against the Kurds, and the Russians many yrs ago.. the U.N. even acknowledges he HAD them at one point in time,, and like the other person said, if he didnt have them why wouldnt he come clean?

[Scotty_S-15]

911 ???

...........Ben 442, your thoughts on the cause of 911 are bordering on delusional. Really. I wouldn\'t repeat such ridiculous statements if I were you. akajoker addressed that quite well.

..............If ANYONE is to blame for 911, it\'s YOU and ME.... and then a secondary reason.

1) I blame you and I. That\'s right. Because the politicians are so hell bent on getting re-elected, they\'ll ignore things (on our behalf) that might have saved us. It\'s our fault for not letting our representatives know that we don\'t care if they cut health care to spend more for the CIA, or raise taxes to spend more for the CIA. Or, take away some of our precious personal and civil liberties to protect us overall.

...............They (both parties) probably knew there was an airline threat... but both parties were afraid to speak up, and send the airline industry into the tank, messing up the economy, and spoiling their chance of re-election. If you and I would have heeded a politician\'s plea to boost inteligence, increase airline security including hours of additional screening, and increase airline fares and/or tax increases to cover it all, we might have been saved. The thing is, you and I would have NEVER re-elected that guy. NEVER, EVER. That\'s why it\'s our fault.

2) I touched on this earlier in this thread, the Dems in the 90s stripped our intelligence agencies of their powers, and crushed their morale. This was fueled by the dreaded \"polical correctness\" to a ridiculous level by the Democats.

................ You might think I\'m really down of the Dems, and yes, I am. But, I believe in the 2 party system, gotta have both. Without the Republicans, in 10 years we\'d be so far left, everyone would be on some sort of govenment subsidy, no one would work, it\'d be just grand. And we\'d feel compelled to share our wives with door to door salesmen, \'cause it\'s the neighborly thing to do.... we wouldn\'t want him to feel unwelcome.

.................. And you can imagine the flip-side. Without the Dems, the world would be so far right..... you get the picture, just as scary..... the tugging from both extremes keeps us in center, where we need to be.

................... The best we can hope for is a guy like W. Bush who comes along once in a while and actually is looking out for us, and does what\'s right, regardless of the political fallout.

Scotty

[ben442]

aka joker i\'m talking about the trade agreement with central and south america. This proposal isn\'t for chicken plants it\'s for building goods and buildings. It doesn\'t have to be just low paying jobs. I mean think about it starts with the shit jobs and then works its way up, I can see it now...\" if the chicken plant can do it, why can\'t I build this building as long as there gone within ther time line ?There working under our liscense, and i\'ll send in another group and another group as long as they meet there time line, I\'ll do this till the job is done\" who will tell them no.Check into it.It\'s already happening here, alot of our schools are being built by totally unqaulified wannabe tradesmen they work under the contractors liscense. The education department has to go with the lowest bid. I just saw this in a public school. And, maybe there not from over the border but, they are definetly not qualified to be working on fire alarm, gas lines, furnaces wich gan give off carbon minoxide \"the silent killer\". And, on bare studs I saw little colored dots to show how to connect wires because they don\'t speak english. Do you want to send your kid to a school like this. Yeah, it may work on final inspection but, you got to wonder if it will work when it counts?As far as the war, Yes they hate us because of our freedoms so why are we helping people that don\'t like us and don\'t want our help. Just saw on the news a suicide bomber took out 8 of our troops what a shame. They are willing to die by killing themselves even if they fail and nobody goes with them. They don\'t care if they win they just want to see everyone who isn\'t like them gone.Yes the first bush started this and my freind died in the gulf. I can\'t explain how much this hurt me. Bush sr. could\'nt finish it so how can his son. I wish there was a way that we could get in and get out but we can\'t, we are in to deep and they will stop at nothing. You tell me if we will win.And it\'s funny how the economy is coming back right before election time probaly, becuase bush has to in order win.And canada has a cap on the prices what a great idea, I wonder why we can\'t do this here, something to do with bush and medical?. Hope this explained what I mean I don\'t post b.s. and will back up what I say.

[miah]

Even if Iraq did have WMD they would have a hard time getting them onto US soil. The cia would know about it way before it even happend.



I think the Bush family likes hitting the beehive.



kerry isnt much better morally, but at least he doesnt want american soldiers fighting for something that isnt even ours.



Oh yeah, and if bush gets re-elected, how much you wanna bet its going to be the US vs. North Korea next, then onward to China.

[ben442]

As far as 9/11 I don\'t mean to offend anyone with what I said. But, we where warned with bush sr. that if we invaded that there would be consiqeunces.And I don\'t think we took it seriosly. It took the terrorists a long time to plan out wtc and we never saw it coming. I remember that day and I could\'nt believe it our america had a weakness what is this?.It really doesn\'t matter what we think about why it happened. It happened and so far this war has been long and, I don\'t think the punishment meets the crime. At first we where bombing like crazy and, I thought that it would be over soon. I mean I was like damn this bush means buisness! This is the way to send a message \" don\'t you even think about it\".With all that we have as far as technology should\'nt we have already won with less casualties. We can\'t tell the enemies from the allies.Wheter or not we want to admit it, we need help with this war.Since terrorism is a global problem why are we pretty much alone. Think about it, why won\'t our allies jump in there full force.We pretty much told them that we will do it with out you.

[mzoomora]

On 2004-04-30 00:24, miah wrote:

Even if Iraq did have WMD they would have a hard time getting them onto US soil. The cia would know about it way before it even happend.



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Then why didn\'t they know about the 19 hijackers that were training to fly and crash- but not land- planes right under their noses? Between Mexico, Canada, and two huge oceans and one gulf there is a lot of land to cover. Anybody who has been over either land border can tell you that it is pretty easy to move stuff back and forth. I think that defense is a huge issue, even before 9/11, and I have a very different perspective as a member of the Chicago Fire Dept. I was at the WTC moving rubble and looking at grown men who didnt look like they wanted to go on another day- if you were there, or here, or Iraq, or Afganistan, you would believe in a strong defense and a strong offense.



Sorry for the soap box routine but it is a very close subject for me.

[ben442]

Some food for thought.. I hope you have a lot of time on your hands.www.aflcio.org. looking for that non bais news network.This is what backs my union. And they are definetly mixed up in politics more then we are.

[ben442]

also, www.commoncause.org

[Ike]

Why doesn\'t the media tell the story that more US Soldiers have died providing assistance to the U.N. than have died in Iraq?

[bratass]

I dont see anyone impressing me so how bout MARY CAREY. She could go boost troop morale http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif I watched my job head to Mexico little bit at a time and that sucked but I went for a new trade and damned if that sonofabit@h didnt head south too,now I work for myself and every where I turn people are undercutting my bids because they hire imported people who are willing work for damned near nothing.I refuse to hire them just so I can be competitive.Ill find something else to do

[Scotty_S-15]

On 2004-04-30 00:44, mzoomora wrote:



Then why didn\'t they know about the 19 hijackers that were training to fly and crash- but not land- planes right under their noses? Between Mexico, Canada, and two huge oceans and one gulf there is a lot of land to cover. Anybody who has been over either land border can tell you that it is pretty easy to move stuff back and forth. I think that defense is a huge issue, even before 9/11, and I have a very different perspective as a member of the Chicago Fire Dept. I was at the WTC moving rubble and looking at grown men who didnt look like they wanted to go on another day- if you were there, or here, or Iraq, or Afganistan, you would believe in a strong defense and a strong offense.



Sorry for the soap box routine but it is a very close subject for me.



Amen to that, with a bazillion ship-board containers coming into the US every day, there is NO WAY we can ever check everything coming in to this country. Our only hope is an immense, perfect intelligence community. We should take some tips from the Israelis in that department.

[Scotty_S-15]

And besides not being able to check the containers, all they would need to do was to blow up a mega-nuclear or chemical bomb on the ship BEFORE it was checked, right in LA, NY, Baltimore harbors!

......... So if anyone thinks we can stop an attack by sealing our borders, they\'re only kidding themselves. As I said, our only hope is intelligence (which the dems tried very hard to dismantle in the 90\'s) and, keeping track of all nuke & chem materials.