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my454s10
08-22-2004, 04:36 PM
after i lowered the front and rear of the truck and tuned it in..i went to the track...i almost crashed the darn thing ..it is pulling so hard to the right it is scary.the front tires was scrcheching..did i do something wrong or is it just the way it is and i need to take it to the aliament shop

tracker
08-22-2004, 04:40 PM
take it to the aliament shop





YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!!

spacecadet
08-22-2004, 05:49 PM
If you haven\'t had it aligned since the suspension parts were changed then I would recomend having it done. Anytime suspension parts are changed the alignment should be checked.



Does it pull just driving it normally? Or Just when hammering down the track. How did you lower the rear?



With the info provided I would think it is related to torque pull. If removed a leaf or added a block it could be due to the torque twisting up the rr leaf spring causing it to \'walk\' forward thus makeing the nose go to the right.

mzoomora
08-22-2004, 05:50 PM
If it is pulling so hard that the tires are screaching, double check your ball joints and wheel bearings. Could also be that your old spindle was bent and aligned to correct it. Either way when you install new ones they will be off.

my454s10
08-23-2004, 08:36 AM
before i lowered it..blocks in the rear and springs in the front...it drove straight as a arrow...i could leave the line and never touch the steering wheel...it pulls hard enough that if i was to let go and mid track i would t-bone the wall....

rudedogg
08-23-2004, 09:45 AM
brother something is messed up get it to an alignment shop ASAP!!!!ball joints or tie rod ends possibly the tie rod adjusting sleeve is worn out!

spacecadet
08-23-2004, 05:05 PM
Does it pull just driving it normally? Or Just when hammering down the track?



It could just be the rear axel wrapping up.

You could try a set of traction bars.

The front springs that were installed isn\'t going to make dramtic changes that would effect it the way you are saying.

A bad example but if you picture a wood hammer pulling a bent nail from plywood you would see the plywood buckling as the hammer leans back. Sorry bad example but the same thing occurs with a leaf spring with add a blocks.

In 4x4\'s that were lifted with really big blocks I\'ve seen the drive shaft pound the rear of the tcase when doing a hole shot. And when stomping on it in reverse I\'ve seen the drive shaft fall out.

All because of the torque twisting action exagerated by the lift/lowering blocks.

my454s10
08-23-2004, 05:11 PM
it has traction bars under it...i cut the springs with a disk...wonder if i may have got them uneven...they looked the same...i might just get new spring and put it back the way it was...it looks a lot better lowered ..but shit i cant drive it..wtf

spacecadet
08-23-2004, 05:37 PM
Sorry I must ask again.



Does it pull just driving it normally?



Or Just when hammering down the track?







If it does it under normal drive conditions then Jack it up under the control arms, shake it down to make sure there are NO loose or worn parts. If there are then replace them, Then bring it to a shop and have the alignment checked. And adjusted. Ask for a \"before\" print out and and \"after\" print out Before the alignment work is done.

my454s10
08-23-2004, 06:07 PM
if i let go of the steering wheel ..it would go in circles..even at 5-10 mph...but the thing is ..that before the lowering ..it drove like new..

spacecadet
08-23-2004, 06:28 PM
Check the front end. Then bring it tho the alignment shop. Ask him to check SAI (sterring axis inclination) and SAI w/included angle. If thier is a big differance (more than 1 degree) then the spindal is bent. There should be a \'spec\' on it, which should be in the print out.

Its possible the truck was aligned to hide and overcome the problem. When the truck was lowered the camber should have gotten a little more negative. In which if it had a bent spindal would make the change that more noticeable.

insomniacshotrods
08-23-2004, 06:53 PM
Good Lord how many coils did you cut off ?Had to be alot to make it screech.....Get a set of bell tech dropped springs and spindles from summitt racing under $250 great ride and quality then take to an alignment shop asap..also check balljoints while your there......

Indiana
08-23-2004, 07:50 PM
Autozone has good upper ball joints for $14 and some change each. The cheaper ones are $9. In my area the warehouse was out.

FireStruck
08-24-2004, 04:08 AM
One thing you might check is the clearance between your rims and the outer end of your top a arm. when lowering it might rub. I had this problem with mine when I put on the camero rims. You would think both sides would do the same but one side was worse than the other. I fixed it by grinding off the end of the a arm, you know that flat area right on the end. Hope you find the problem.

Steve

my454s10
08-24-2004, 04:47 AM
i do not need new ball joints..or end...I bought the truck in 1994..and its a 1992 truck..i cut 1-1/2 coils off...

mzoomora
08-24-2004, 06:08 AM
Those stock control arms have a lot of camber gain in them, from the upper being shorter. Your wheels are probably leaning noticeably I would think. The upper control arms will need to be shimmed for sure. The problem is that they should be leaning close to the same amount, so it shouldnt pull that bad. I would double check to make sure that both springs are all the way in their upper spring pockets and that all the ball joints are in all the way.

Scotty_S-15
08-24-2004, 06:15 AM
I think this was mentioned earlier in the thread... but make sure to check the wheel bearings and brakes for drag.

...... My point is, check the things that have catastrophic consequences first. That is, wheel bearings, brakes, and as was mentioned numberous times, ball joints.

....... Regarding the alignment, since you messed with the springs, ride height, etc. for sure you need an good alignment. But you could do a half-azzed job yourself, with a straight edge, machinists protractor/level, some jackstands and a roll of string.

mzoomora
08-24-2004, 06:33 AM
Also, did you check your ball joint with the weight off of them? Try putting a jack under the lower control arm and ifting that wheel up off of the ground, then pull back and forth on the top and bottom of the wheel, if it moves at all you need new ball joints. If they are original ball joints they will need replacement almost deffinetly.

my454s10
08-24-2004, 08:29 AM
i was wondering about the spring thing not being seated in the upper part..also i noticed that i can not move the right side rotor by hand..i have to use a long bar to get it to move.maybe my brakes are missed up

rudedogg
08-24-2004, 09:07 AM
a stuck caliper can give you the same affect you have explained,i mean if its draggin on that side it will pull to that side,i would remove the caliper and see if the rotor spins freely,who knows the spindle bearings could be shot......

mzoomora
08-24-2004, 10:29 AM
Did you remove the brakes or spindle, or just the lower ball joint to get the spring out? If you removed the brakes, I would check all the stuff mentioned, and also make sure the brake line isnt kinked.

85350DROPTOP
08-24-2004, 11:19 AM
also if you removed the caliper, and let it hang on the line, that will cause it to drag as you mention, some times they fail right away, some times years later. you will not see a failure, the inner liner fails, and hold the fluid like a check valve