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Knanthrup
03-15-2005, 03:13 PM
Hi guys. Sorry for all the posts on this topic lately, but I thought I would make a new one because I finished my write-up on my 7.5 to Explorer 8.8 rear swap. I did it to share it with everyone my experience and I figure a lot of you may find it helpful if you're looking to do a fairly simple rear end swap without having to narrow or heavily modify parts.



EDIT: THE ADDRESS HAS CHANGED TO

www.knant.com/axleswap/index.htm (http://www.knant.com/axleswap/index.htm)



Enjoy!



Images may be a little slow to load, let me know if it's deathly slow or dies I may have to change servers.

redneckgames
03-15-2005, 03:27 PM
Awesome. You have made me to want to do the swap! The page is great. My computer is slower than hell and it downloaded everything great. you done an awesome job with the write-up. thanks

Brad

Knanthrup
03-15-2005, 03:33 PM
Hey no problem. I did it for the community and everyone else to have something to reference to. I know the rumor around here has been back and forth about whether this is a good swap or not and I thought I would clear it up with some details and pictures to back it up!

redneckgames
03-15-2005, 03:43 PM
Have you driven it much? Any difference? I mean except for the posi and 3.73\'s

Knanthrup
03-15-2005, 04:07 PM
Yeah I really finished it last night and took it out right away. I actually just took it for a spin 5 minutes aho too. It has a really solid feel to it. The axle actually lowered the rear of my truck too, id guess maybe .5-1\", i think because the larger diameter tubing spaces the wheel up higher on the spring. Hard to explain the feel really but it definitely feels different, like i said more of a solid riding feeling. The added weight to the rear may be part of it. The brakes feel stronger, and the posi and 3.73 gears made an even bigger difference than anything. I can\'t tell you how great it is to have a posi, the grip is just wonderful. And the gears made my useable power much easier to obtain, especially since my NV3500 has fairly wide ratios. Right now it\'s no doubt the best mod ive done to the truck besides the engine swap itself

JAMCAR223
03-16-2005, 10:15 AM
KNANTHRUP- YOU KNOCKED THAT SWAP OUT

QUICK! GLAD TO HEAR IT PAID OFF AND YOUR HAPPY. I HAVENT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT

YOUR INFO YET BUT I WILL.I JUST LOL\'D CAUSE I SEE YOU ALREADY UPDATED YOUR BIO W/ 8.8. ANYWAY,IMO THE ONLY GOOD THINGS FORD MAKES ARE THEIR REARENDS??

JAMCAR223
03-16-2005, 10:33 AM
JUST CHECKED OUT YOUR WRITE-UP, GOOD JOB!!! I MAY BE PARANOID,BUT MY ONLY AREA OF CONCERN WOULD BE THE\"MIS\"ALIGHMENT OF YOUR LEAF SPRING STUDS.GUESS WE\'LL KNOW WHEN YOU GET IT TO THE TRACK.BTW THATS A NASTY LOOKING LEG INJURY-CANT BELIEVE IT DIDNT BREAK-

WITH ALL THAT SWELLING THAT WAS A HARD HIT!

Knanthrup
03-16-2005, 11:02 AM
On 2005-03-16 15:33, JAMCAR223 wrote:

JUST CHECKED OUT YOUR WRITE-UP, GOOD JOB!!! I MAY BE PARANOID,BUT MY ONLY AREA OF CONCERN WOULD BE THE\"MIS\"ALIGHMENT OF YOUR LEAF SPRING STUDS.GUESS WE\'LL KNOW WHEN YOU GET IT TO THE TRACK.BTW THATS A NASTY LOOKING LEG INJURY-CANT BELIEVE IT DIDNT BREAK-

WITH ALL THAT SWELLING THAT WAS A HARD HIT!



Hey thanks for your comments, I really appreciate it. The swap really didn\'t take long at all. A lot of it was spent cleaning up the axle, from there it was pretty straight forward with exception to the driveline attachment which I had to make a run to NAPA for the new U-joint. The \"mis-alignment\" doesn\'t really worry me. It was just enough for me to have to pull the spring by hand to get it to pop in. With the U bolts around the axle and mounting it down, the spring is sitting completely flush with the axle with no slop or sign of trouble. I will certainly give it a test at the track though. Opening test n tune is beginning of april here.



I did update my profile http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif I just want everyone to know it can and has been done and if they need someone to talk to im here. I\'m probably one of few with this rearend in an s-10 right now. As far as Ford stuff goes, yes this is the only Ford part I would ever use on my truck. I would have loved to have used a Chevy 12 bolt but there is absolutely nothing I could find that would fit without narrowing. I guess I don\'t feel too bad because everyone and their brother is running ford 9\'ers at the track in every make of car. Some day I might go back to a chevy rear though.

Knanthrup
02-17-2007, 02:12 PM
fyi, the address has changed to www.knant.com/axleswap/index.htm (http://www.knant.com/axleswap/index.htm)



my other server went down and i got a few questions about it

buckethead
03-21-2007, 06:22 PM
well yall can chalk another ford 8.8 under the rear of another s-10. I finished installing mine today, and this write up helped me out tremendously!! Thanks Knanthrup!

Knanthrup
03-21-2007, 06:43 PM
On 2007-03-21 22:22, buckethead wrote:

well yall can chalk another ford 8.8 under the rear of another s-10. I finished installing mine today, and this write up helped me out tremendously!! Thanks Knanthrup!



buckethead,

im extremely happy to hear that. The whole reason why I even took the time to do it was to try and help others out, glad you found it useful.



-Kevin

lroger20
04-04-2007, 03:33 PM
just located myself a 92 3L73 8.8 POSI its being taken out of the explorer tomorrow,will pick it up saturday.I save so much,can`t wait to start,been looking for one since december,thanks for the info http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

afghanimobilerawks
04-05-2007, 02:19 AM
well, looks like doing that would be cheaper than doing my 8.5\" that i have...... 400 Canadian for a 3.73 (didnt say if it was posi) or not, but its from a 95 up, so it\'ll have the disc brakes. sweet!!

Knanthrup
04-05-2007, 10:10 AM
On 2007-04-04 20:33, lroger20 wrote:

just located myself a 92 3L73 8.8 POSI its being taken out of the explorer tomorrow,will pick it up saturday.I save so much,can`t wait to start,been looking for one since december,thanks for the info http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif



Cool, that\'s exactly what I got when I pulled mine. Let us know how it goes.

lroger20
04-07-2007, 03:01 PM
what did you do for u-bolt size and the plate under spring that the shock attach to.did you redrill new u bolt holes in that plate. let me know thanks http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Knanthrup
04-07-2007, 05:16 PM
My situation was a little different because im using traction bars that replace the spring perch. I ended up just bending the u-bolt out a little bit and then back in to fit the holes. This may not work in a lot of people\'s cases, but ive heard of other guys redrilling and using the ford u-bolts. I think you would be fine doing that.

lroger20
04-08-2007, 06:04 AM
O.K. I`m going to order the Lakewood traction bar for S10,do you think its gonna have the u bolt holes drilled for the 7.5 rear or will they send me the bolt pattern I need for the 8.8 cause i need the long style bar so that the bumper sits under the front leaf spring frame mounting bracket.I`m getting it from Jegs maybe they can do that or it might be a special order,what you think?

Knanthrup
04-08-2007, 09:35 AM
On 2007-04-08 11:04, lroger20 wrote:

O.K. I`m going to order the Lakewood traction bar for S10,do you think its gonna have the u bolt holes drilled for the 7.5 rear or will they send me the bolt pattern I need for the 8.8 cause i need the long style bar so that the bumper sits under the front leaf spring frame mounting bracket.I`m getting it from Jegs maybe they can do that or it might be a special order,what you think?



The set im using are modified from a nova, so im not sure how wide the s-10 ones are. I would imagine they are drilled specifically for the 7.5 though. The other option is to just find or order some aftermarket u-bolts that are a little longer (like u-bolts that come with drop blocks) then you could just push them over the axle tubes and bend them back a little bit to fit the holes. I did that when I was test fitting the rear. The reason why it works is because they are a little longer and a little smaller diameter bolt so they\'re easier to bend to fit.

lroger20
04-19-2007, 04:35 PM
hey did the pinion offset from the 7.5 and the 8.8 make a difference when you put the driveshaft in. I noticed its a little off center,just curious as to how you handled that . http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

Knanthrup
04-19-2007, 05:13 PM
hey did the pinion offset from the 7.5 and the 8.8 make a difference when you put the driveshaft in. I noticed its a little off center,just curious as to how you handled that . http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif



The pinion is off center by about 2\". To be honest I had to have a driveshaft made at the time to fit my transmission anyways so that combined with the way my engine was positioned allowed the length came out fine. I measured the angle and I don\'t remember exactly what it came out to but it was well within tolerances. I\'m not sure that everyone\'s setup would come out the same but I have not heard of any problems yet. Maybe someone else who has completed it can chime in if they used their stock driveshaft... i know there are atleast a handful now

adh383
04-21-2007, 10:42 AM
I just lengthened my shaft about 2 inches---- as far as the pinion angle, mine was off a bit also but no problems yet--- and its been well over a year since installation

85s10racer
04-22-2007, 07:58 AM
Thanks for the write up, it helped me out alot! I just finished my 3.73 posi install with a rear end that I got at work for free. I work at a large delership and the body shop was throwing the complete rear end out, The explorer was hit in the front, but when they went to align it, it showed the left axle tube less than 1/8\" forward. My driveshaft was too long at 57.5\" long and while at work I had a 96 Caprice Wagon on my lift and I measured the driveshaft and it was a perfect 56\" long so I went to the junkyard and picked one up for $50 and got around having one cut and balanced. Everything went together great, I did have to make an adapter to covert the chevy brake line to the ford brake line because I have disc brakes.

miller355
04-25-2007, 05:38 PM
hey dudes ,just finished up my 8.8 explorer rearend swap for my 1995 s10.It worked out great, thanks to knanthrups write up.

i found a 1996 sport explorer rearend with discs brake set up 3.73 limited slip in the junkyard for 130.00 .

I will be posting pics soon ,still have to get my exhaust done.

Knanthrup
04-25-2007, 07:54 PM
On 2007-04-25 22:38, miller355 wrote:

hey dudes ,just finished up my 8.8 explorer rearend swap for my 1995 s10.It worked out great, thanks to knanthrups write up.

i found a 1996 sport explorer rearend with discs brake set up 3.73 limited slip in the junkyard for 130.00 .

I will be posting pics soon ,still have to get my exhaust done.





Glad to hear man. Post up those pics when you get the chance!



I\'m so happy that so many people have been successful with this swap. Cheers fellas!

Chucked
05-05-2007, 09:55 AM
What drums/disks are you using? Or are you having them redrilled also?

Knanthrup
05-05-2007, 10:25 AM
I am still using the explorer drums. My Cragar\'s have the universal bolt pattern to fit ford and chevy so it works out ok.



BUT I know of a few other guys who did the swap who just had a machine shop redrill the axles for the chevy bolt pattern. Cost for that I have heard from $40-60 to switch over. I will be changing bolt pattern next time I change my wheel setup.

Chucked
05-06-2007, 04:03 AM
The machine shop down the street from me wants 200 bucks to do the axles and drums/rotors

Knanthrup
05-06-2007, 08:16 AM
On 2007-05-06 09:03, Chucked wrote:

The machine shop down the street from me wants 200 bucks to do the axles and drums/rotors



Wow!! That\'s very expensive. I don\'t know what the fair going rate for that is, but I was quoted $60 at my local shop... but then again maybe its because they know me. If the rear wasn\'t already so wide i would say put some pattern conversion plates on there, but they add too much spacing.

Bakas
09-11-2007, 11:56 AM
look at my pics, i have custom axles for the 8.8 with the chevy lug, and I didnt want to buy special rotors so i got my die grinder and made the ford holes oval and fit perfect.

Knanthrup
09-11-2007, 11:48 PM
Where did you get 8.8 axles with the 4.75 lug pattern? or were these custom machined when you had your rear narrowed?

Bakas
09-12-2007, 02:32 PM
http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif ya they were custom moser, Knanthrup

I also used your write up to install mine, it took me 3 weeks to complete it all said and done, I wanted to thank you for the write up saved me alot of time and money$$

bigrond
10-09-2007, 03:28 PM
awesome read man i just got my 1st 96 s10 2wd a few days ago its gotta blown motor so i intend to do the v8 swap i just picked out a 8.8 today for 200 373 posi with disc and i will poping it in next week.found tuned port 350 at the same yard for cheap put a deposit on the whole car i cant wait to get this thing rollin http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

gs97chevys10
10-09-2007, 05:02 PM
knathrup just got mine also junk yard 100$ today th

gs97chevys10
10-09-2007, 05:06 PM
thanks for the write up. now that most have read your write up i had problems getting one in the beginning on craigs list parts explorers other guys beating me to the exploder..lol gave up almost decided to beef up 7.5 . but called wrecking yard went asap and paid 100$ thanks alot ... http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

gs97chevys10
10-09-2007, 05:51 PM
is it just my computer or do the pictures not load at all (15min) nothing..?

Knanthrup
10-09-2007, 06:13 PM
Thanks gs97chevys10,

I'm glad people have been able to find my experience useful. It's great being able to find these rear ends so cheap since there are so many junked explorers out there (as compared to rare and expensive s-10 8.5's).



You're right, for some reason my site isn't loading the images. There is something wrong with my host, im going to have to look in to it. Thanks for the heads up on it, ill try to get it back working either tonight or early tomorrow

gs97chevys10
10-10-2007, 06:58 PM
pics work now knathrup.. http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Knanthrup
10-10-2007, 07:16 PM
On 2007-10-10 23:58, gs97chevys10 wrote:

pics work now knathrup.. http://www.s10v8.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif



excellent! it wouldnt be very easy to read without the pics!

jackfast
10-11-2007, 08:50 AM
Guaranteed when I get the fund I'm puttin a 8.8 in my S dime thanks Bro .. I have been tellin all my S 10 buddies about this swap Hell one of em has an Isuzu with a 406 and that same 8.8 still kickin ass again thanks

Jon14
04-17-2008, 05:01 PM
I was wondering if anyone had an s10 with the circle flang like the ford has? And does that bolt up to the fords?



And if they are different should i look at getting a new driveshaft from an s10 or just shorting mine and changing the yoke?

Knanthrup
04-17-2008, 06:36 PM
On 2008-04-17 22:01, Jon14 wrote:

I was wondering if anyone had an s10 with the circle flang like the ford has? And does that bolt up to the fords?



And if they are different should i look at getting a new driveshaft from an s10 or just shorting mine and changing the yoke?





Hi Jon,

The round flange that bolts to the differential yoke on the 8.8 rear is not a design that the S-10 ever used. So what you will need to do is get that piece off of the Ford driveshaft by removing the u-joint that connects it to the driveshaft. That will separate the pieces. Then you need to get a new u-joint that will mate the s-10 driveshaft to the round Ford flange. I listed the Napa part number for that on my write-up (hopefully that's still correct). Then you just push the u-joint in and clip it and you will have your s-10 driveshaft mated to the ford yoke piece.



As far as the driveshaft length does... I measured the old S-10 yoke piece and the Ford flat disc yoke piece and they are pretty damn close.... so you probably won't need to change the length of your driveshaft, although everyone may have slightly different results. I would either measure it or mock it up and you'll get an idea. My stock driveshaft would have worked perfectly and unmodified with the 8.8 swap if it wasn't for the fact that I am using a different transmission.



Hope that helps,

LthLWpN
06-26-2008, 07:46 PM
where did myou get the U bolts and what size were they?

Ryoung68
06-26-2008, 11:33 PM
Now I wondering if I made a mistake changing over to the 8.5 10 bolt?

Knanthrup
06-27-2008, 03:50 AM
where did myou get the U bolts and what size were they?

The U-bolts I used were the ones from a lowering block kit. The reason is that they are longer and a bit smaller diameter so they're able to get over the larger axle tubes. I've heard from other people who did the swap that you can also pick up u-bolts from autozone or napa.

Now I wondering if I made a mistake changing over to the 8.5 10 bolt?

If you already did the 8.5 swap then don't worry about it. The 8.5 is a great rear and I would have probably gone for that swap first if they weren't so damn hard to find and expensive to buy. It's nice to have a rear that fits perfectly in the stock location from the same model vehicle. On the other hand, if you don't have the money or resources to do an 8.5 then the 8.8 seems to be a great alternative. Not a lot of options out there without narrowing.

WallyEFunk
07-05-2008, 10:35 AM
Tks Knanthrup , Getting my 97 rear today.for my 93, only $150.00 Candian, I'm lucky enough to have a dual lug nut patern on the rims.( 4.75 4.5 ) later will get another set ,of 18 inch dual pattern rims with a large offset and then will add a chev to ford spacer on the fronts to remove the too much offset on front. found this site to help figure things out http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp but a few questions remain for me ,
-for the disk brakes ,is a brake propionate valve needed? any one have info ?
-anyone have info or pictures for the E-brake cable setup?
-have read about shorting the driver side ,by just cutting down the tube ,and using the shorter 27 1/2 passenger side axle. taking off 3 inches. anyone here have any thoughts on this? I know I'll have to change mounts etc. any other problems?

Knanthrup
07-05-2008, 05:37 PM
Tks Knanthrup , Getting my 97 rear today.for my 93, only $150.00 Candian, I'm lucky enough to have a dual lug nut patern on the rims.( 4.75 4.5 ) later will get another set ,of 18 inch dual pattern rims with a large offset and then will add a chev to ford spacer on the fronts to remove the too much offset on front. found this site to help figure things out http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp but a few questions remain for me ,
-for the disk brakes ,is a brake propionate valve needed? any one have info ?
-anyone have info or pictures for the emergeny brake cable setup?
-have read about shorting the driver side ,by cutting it down,and using the shorter 27 1/2 passenger side axle. taking off 3 inches anyone here have any thoughts on this? I know I'll have to change mounts etc. any other problems?

No problem Wally. I don't have good answers to your questions but here's what I know.

- You will need a proportioning vavle for the disc brakes. I'm not sure exacty what bias you need to make it work best, but I would recommend just getting a Wilwood adjustable proportioning valve, then you can fine tune it. Here's what I'm talking about: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wilwood-Proportioning-Valve-NEW-260-8419_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42605QQihZ018QQite mZ280242924849QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

- Don't personally know about the e-brake setup

-Yes, I have definitely heard of people doing the axle trim method to narrow the rear. I would imagine that it's pretty straight forward as long as you're good at cutting and welding. It's really just cutting the tube and rewelding the flange and also moving the spring perch. I will probably be doing this as soon as I swap over to disc brakes.

I'm sure someone will chime in with better info on the disc rear. Good luck!

LthLWpN
07-14-2008, 05:57 PM
heya Knanthrup, I am wondering what is the wheel backspacing you are using after the swap. I have an 84 longbed and I am going to use the 8.8 with the drum brakes. What backspacing do you think I should use?

WallyEFunk
07-20-2008, 11:50 PM
like Knanthrup said in earlier posts. the lenght seam to be different from one 8.8's to anothers, from what Knanthrup was told, from other posters.( I think sizes don't change. PPL that got one from wreakers, they were not the stock rearend) ,anyway,so that back space will be different , knowing S10 do have a 5 to 15 offset. Also , I learned how offset numbers work ,they're talking about Millimeters. (15 offset is 15mm. to the PLUS a -15... 15mm. negative or in. So use the starting lenght of the stock one, in the truck, measure what you're getting and go from there . here is the link again to help with offsets. try to get a dual pattern rim as well. If you can. http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp Hope this helps.

zz5s10blazer
07-27-2008, 02:41 AM
Wow it has been awhile I'm glad to see someone took my advice and decided to do the 8.8 I did it in 99 I guess it took off that is cool that was the first mod I did with my first v8.

zz5s10blazer
07-28-2008, 09:01 PM
All you need to do is change to a yoke set up and use the u-joint that mates a ford rear yoke to a chevy drive shaft that is what I did on mine I do not remember part number for u-joint. my 87 s10 blazer came with power brakes Disc in front you can run the same porp. valve you just will not get all the life out of your 8.8 disc pads because they will not close all the way once worn to a point no biggie I just replaced when it got to that point did this set up in 99 with a 98 explorer rear end the three inches cut down on long side to center it and got 56 1/2 ran it hard like this for five years with 4:88 gears never a problem. and it stoped on a dime.

grim_reaper888
08-23-2008, 08:31 PM
i think my driveshaft got longer or the rear end did because it will not fit now. went and got a 97 explorer 8.8 with 3l73's in it and disk brakes. put it in a few minutes ago. knanthrup your meaning of nudge the springs over and mine are definatly different. the u-bolts that came with the drop blocks had to be bent a good bit to fit in the holes. i used a no hook rachet strap to pull them together. but hey shes in there and looks pretty damn good. just throwing my 2 cents out there.

ProdigyS10
10-03-2008, 11:37 AM
thank god for this link.... i snagged a 8.8 and had a buddy rebuild it with carbon fibre clutch plates etc... i have to replumb the brake lines and install fresh brakes on it now and then its going in over the winter... also gotta grab the drive shaft adapter and then i should be good to go!

-Deception-
10-03-2008, 12:07 PM
Thats a great build. I may do this swap also I need to get rid of my spacers and my 20s are chevy/ford universals.

dpwrenchhead
10-07-2008, 01:27 AM
yes i bought my ford rear end here recently form the salvage yard,gettin ready to clean it up and paint it and install it .i hopre to see a big difference also

Knanthrup
10-15-2008, 10:13 PM
i think my driveshaft got longer or the rear end did because it will not fit now. went and got a 97 explorer 8.8 with 3l73's in it and disk brakes. put it in a few minutes ago. knanthrup your meaning of nudge the springs over and mine are definatly different. the u-bolts that came with the drop blocks had to be bent a good bit to fit in the holes. i used a no hook rachet strap to pull them together. but hey shes in there and looks pretty damn good. just throwing my 2 cents out there.

Hey grim, sorry I had been away from the forum for a while so I didn't see your post in here. I'm sorry to hear that your swap gave you some trouble. I'm glad to hear you got it in though. Over the years I have heard various issues come up with the swap, but generally it goes just fine with a little muscle and patience. As far as the springs matching the perches go, mine went in without much effot. I basically just snugged everything up then yanked on the spring by hand and it popped in (my springs are aftermarket though, so maybe that affected it?). I also used u-bolts from drop blocks, shoved them over the axle tubes then squeezed them back in to fit.

If anyone has any specific questions that I might be able to help with feel free to PM me on here or e-mail me at the address in the write-up. I do try to check this thread once in a while but I'm not always timely. As I mentioned, results and procedures do vary, the write-up I did was just my account of how things went.

brucev8
11-15-2008, 06:23 PM
Is the ford explorer strong enough for 450 hp.

chris1972
11-15-2008, 06:25 PM
yes 8.8 is will handle that much

chris1972
11-15-2008, 06:29 PM
i have that rear end in my 85 mustang with twin turbos ..that i am builting

ProdigyS10
11-18-2008, 10:25 AM
finished my 8.8" install, only troubles i had were my rear yoke wasn't there from the drive shaft so i had troubles finding one... ended up going to a mustang performance shop, got the rear yoke and the part for the diff and installed that. worked well...

and the ubolts were a pain, i got explorer ones and used explorer shock perches. had the tabs cut off and built em up like the S10 style ones... fits nicely.

as for the springs... mine didn't wanna just move apart by hand. all we did was grab one with a tie down strap and give it a couple cranks with the rachet on it till it moved a bit then lined the other side up and a couple taps with a big hammer and it sat in perfectly. (100% stock springs)

otherwise everything went according to plan! drive shaft lined up like a champ and its WAY more fun with the 3.73's in it and posi!

thanks for the helpful writeup Knanthrup.

http://forums.kwmuscle.com/viewtopic.php?t=3020 is the build log of mine if anyones interested shows when i ran into trouble etc...

kezark31
02-03-2009, 10:19 PM
i didnt see anyone mention it but the bolt paterns being differnt why not swap on ranger rotor up front so you have the 5x4.5 all around? i now this is an old post. rangers and s10s run the same inner brearing u just have to use the ranger outter bearing and the s10 caliper. and then you have 5x4.5 all around.

copley87blaz
03-21-2009, 10:42 PM
cant wait to do mine

woodyboy
06-18-2009, 10:25 AM
That's a great srory, I'll have to use it............

equinoxsage
08-10-2009, 11:32 AM
Hello, it seems there is some great info on this link but when i click it my virus software blocks it saying that it is trying to install a trojan, anyone else have this problem? Also i am looking to do a Install for air-ride from airride technologies do you think there will be an issue doing this?

rudedogg
08-10-2009, 12:06 PM
no difference at all,it is just an axle that has replaced an axle.....most of that stuff is all fab work even as a kit...

equinoxsage
08-21-2009, 12:29 PM
Thank you for your reply, but noone has told me if the site is malicious, my web browser and my antivirus goes beserk if i try to goto the site that has the write up, is it hosted on another domain that is not infcted? Thanks again

907s10
09-11-2009, 05:54 AM
Just did my 8.8 swap after work. Drive shaft length , brake line fittings all worked like they were factory. U bolts required some re bending and the u joint was probably the biggest pain and received some coaxing from the bfh . Pn 372 at napa. Thanks knanthrup

SassyV8
09-11-2009, 11:23 PM
equinoxsage,I did the same and it said virus, and malicious......try before lone time ago did the same.......guess all I need to know is the 8.8 ford rear works.

STIpend
09-25-2009, 07:22 AM
equinoxsage, SassyV8 - I have the same warning about the site.

I can only read this thread and not visit the site also - too bad I really need to replace my Eaton Gov Loc which has broken teeth on the tiny gear that operates when the wheel spin difference is greater than 100RPM.



Here is some info from my anti-virus software on this site:
(had to alter a bad .com name in the following...)




Safe Browsing
Diagnostic page for knant.com

What is the current listing status for knant.com?

Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your computer.

Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 6 time(s) over the past 90 days.

What happened when Google visited this site?

Of the 5 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 5 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2009-09-19, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2009-09-19.

Malicious software is hosted on 1 domain(s), including myf ... sy.com/.

This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS13237 (LAMBDANET).

Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?

Over the past 90 days, knant.com did not appear to function as an intermediary for the infection of any sites.

Has this site hosted malware?

No, this site has not hosted malicious software over the past 90 days.

How did this happen?

In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites, which would cause us to show the warning message.

Next steps:

* Return to the previous page.
* If you are the owner of this web site, you can request a review of your site using Google Webmaster Tools. More information about the review process is available in Google's Webmaster Help Center.

s10voodoo
10-11-2009, 08:38 PM
I'm dying to read that link, but every time I click it, it gives me a warning of malware. What's going on with that?

STIpend
10-11-2009, 10:07 PM
It's an infected site, but has great practical info on an explorer 8.8 swap.

One way around it is not to use your hard drive.
Create a bootable CD - free off the internet.
You boot to the read-only CD and not your hard drive.

I booted off a Knoppix live CD - you can do the same with Ubuntu.
These are Linux distributions that come with a browser.

The rear is almost a bolt-in except for the spring perches (.5" per side but can be muscled in), the wheels stick out further and some minor u-joint issues.

The site looks OK, but there is something lurking because of the malware alerts.
Knanthrup thanks for the great documentation - some people are dying to see it - is there someway you can fix the malware problem?

JPS10
12-03-2009, 09:56 PM
I would really like to see the write up also. I have had problems in the past with viruses and can't take a chance. Is there any other way to see the write up. Maybe you can print up some copies and mail them to me. I will gladly pay any cost.

racer1182
12-16-2009, 07:58 PM
yes please cause i have a friend with a bbc 454 and wants to put a posi 3:73 rear in and i told him that this writeup wou;ld explain everything. please fix it...please

Greg

chevy2racr
03-09-2010, 10:07 AM
I got some carquest part numbers for a few things that I used....
I used the 373 posi with disk brakes i used the s-10 factory brakeline t and hard lines from my old axle, then ordered a new pass. side brake hose for the doner to use on the left side
P/N BRK SP9746
4 new u bolts that fit the 8.8
P/NB CPF 41118
u-joint for my factory shaft and the ford pinion mount
UJ 2-1569

all my brake parts were good, had my axles drilled, drilled my own rotors. hope this helps some of you!!

copley87blaz
03-10-2010, 05:26 PM
here is a write up http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f13/getting-my-8-8-ready-to-go-in-341212/

Racerxxx53
03-10-2010, 09:50 PM
The original URL made my antivirus go nuts! It said threat detected and wouldnt let me view it, weird, since others saw it and said nothing about it...scratches head<---

blazer72
03-10-2010, 11:52 PM
good write up bro, thank you.

907s10
03-12-2010, 02:47 PM
I installed my 8.8 in one night after work. It has drums though. I used a u joint from napa pn# 372 . Leave the stock brake lines on the 8.8 all the way to the t fittng by the diff housing. The line that fed the t fitting on you s10 rear should thread into the 8.8 t fitting. I also used a ratchet strap on the leafs to cheat them in a little bit so the spring pads line up. The rest of the swap is routine for a rear end install. A machine shop can redrill the lug pattern on the stock axles to match chevy rims or watever u want.